2020 has been a crazy year to say the least. Where is the current job market for recruiters and what do we think 2021 will be like?
Listen in on what our panelists have to say.
This event is part of the “Let’s Talk Recruiting” series where a panel of recruiting practitioners get together online and have a conversation on a variety of topics related to corporate recruiting.
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We asked our attendees, “What have you been hearing about the job market for recruiters?”
Here are their answers:
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10:02:53 >> From Karen E : Good Afternoon TA Professionals! 🍂🌻🍂
10:03:09 >> From Susan Jayne to All panelists : happy Autumn!! 🧡🎃🍁🍂
10:03:16 >> From Lloyd Fassett to All panelists : Good Moring from the West Coast.
10:03:48 >> From Toni Wells : Good afternoon from Atlanta GA!
10:03:51 >> From Karla Frisby : Good afternoon Karen and my other TA Professionals!
10:04:05 >> From Tamara Garlett : Good afternoon from Portland, OR
10:04:20 >> From Amy Beth Herman : any suggestions on training options for me to learn more about the alphabet soup of recruiting and how regulations, laws etc affect our hiring?
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10:05:02 >> From Matthew Liptak : linkedin learning has great resources for recruiting
10:07:22 >> From Carlton Godfrey to All panelists : Are you all seeing the roles that are available are more for jr level?
10:07:31 >> From Matthew Liptak : both
10:07:35 >> From Matthew Liptak : good mix of levels
10:07:38 >> From Stefan Risko : LinkedIn learning is a great tool.
10:08:14 >> From Matthew Liptak : some jr and some mid to sr
10:09:49 >> From LaShawn Butler : A contractor position allows you to try the company before committing to working with them on a full-time basis
10:10:15 >> From Carlton Godfrey to All panelists : I am finding that many of the open roles are for more junior or they want senior and are only paying for junior.
10:10:18 >> From Catherine Hansen : Is working 1099 the same as working for your own LLC?
10:10:35 >> From Anne Patrick : I am seeing the results.
10:10:55 >> From Matthew Liptak : 1099 you pay your taxes..LLC you have your own corporation
10:11:56 >> From Steven Rosenblum to All panelists : Correct, Matthew. So hold out some of your income to pay the taxes accordingly, if you go 1099.
10:12:09 >> From Steven Rosenblum : Correct, Matthew. So hold out some of your income to pay the taxes accordingly, if you go 1099.
10:14:53 >> From Steven Green : With LI “Open to Work” feature, have you seen or heard concerns of recruiters steering away from looking at those who are not currently employed or seeming “desperate,” with this feature turned on?
10:15:13 >> From Catherine Hansen : Steven, I was curious about this as well.
10:15:57 >> From Steven Rosenblum : Not at all. Rather, it brings you up when recruiters are using LI for sourcing.
10:16:53 >> From Marie deGroh : I had someone tell me not to use the Open to Work feature. But after hearing this feedback, I’m going to put it on and see what happens.
10:18:08 >> From Lloyd Fassett to All panelists : How important is it for recruiters to be onsite for jobs they are looking at?
How important is it to look for full time vs contract engagements?
10:18:09 >> From Steven Rosenblum : Something else to consider is what profile picture are you using (casual vs. professional, background, headshot).
10:18:30 >> From Matthew Liptak : echo steve, professional headshot always
10:19:05 >> From Marie deGroh : It’s been 4 months since I was laid off and I just created a “new job” on my profile indicating I’m looking for a new position. What are your thoughts on that vs. showing you are still employed at your previous company? I’ve received advice for both.
10:19:11 >> From Natha Green : If you’re a 1st degree connection with an employee of a prospective employers of choice, you might try sending them a video message (mobile app only) as a very authentic way to introduce yourself and who you are. Maybe ask if they would refer you.
10:19:12 >> From Stefan Risko : I think your LinkedIn photo is something that’s more based on your profession.. Creatives typically aren’t looking for your business-like head shots, where most sales, operational, tradititionally “more-professional” role will want that suit & tie, professionally shot picture.
10:19:15 >> From Steven Rosenblum : Some companies require onsite. This may be in the posting.
10:19:39 >> From Matthew Liptak : I would recommend not still showing you are working at previous company
10:19:40 >> From Stefan Risko : Love the idea of the video message.
10:20:30 >> From Matthew Liptak : change your top line in the profile to reflect you are a Recruiter or TA professional looking for an open role
10:20:50 >> From Steven Rosenblum : I agree with Matthew about not including you are still working at a company if you’re not there anymore. I had a conversation with someone earlier this week about companies not wanting to be surprised with such information.
10:21:20 >> From Christine Smith : If you put in you’re open to work, can other people in your organization see that?
10:21:30 >> From Steven Rosenblum : Yes.
10:21:51 >> From Stefan Risko : LinkedIn does a pretty good job of hiding it from your current employer, it’s not a guarantee but they do a decent job.
10:22:03 >> From Chris Helvajian : @Christine – depends on your setting. You can set it to everyone, or just those with LinkedIn recruiter accounts
10:22:10 >> From Tamara Garlett : Rachel – when did you post about yourself on LI? I would love to see what you posted . . .
10:22:12 >> From Roseanne Donohue : do you think there is a stigma that if you were laid off that you were a poor performer?
10:22:28 >> From Stefan Risko : @Rosanne – I do not
10:22:44 >> From Catherine Hansen : Roseanne, was wondering about this too. The execs at my startup said this was the case
10:22:45 >> From Roseanne Donohue : I agree with you stefan
10:22:50 >> From sheila meyer to All panelists : they don’t protect you from your parent company which mine has a habit of trolling to see who is open
10:22:55 >> From Matthew Liptak : not at all stigma…
10:22:57 >> From Stefan Risko : I ask if people have ever been terminated, or asked to resign. I also say, outside of a layoff that wasn’t performance related.
10:23:07 >> From Matthew Liptak : I disagree if you were laid off this creates a stigma
10:23:10 >> From Susan Jayne to All panelists : yes , Rachel would you be willing to share? thank you!!
10:23:33 >> From Chris Helvajian : Any advice for someone looking to transition out of higher ed admissions/recruiting to a corporate role? I’ve got about 10 years experience, targeting companies in the Orange County, CA area…
10:23:57 >> From Kara Goodbrand : I thought if someone works at the same company then your ‘open to work’ status is hidden from them
10:24:11 >> From Rachel Cupples : yes I will be happy to reshare now the post on LI
10:24:19 >> From Tamara Garlett : Thanks, Rachel!
10:24:32 >> From sheila meyer to All panelists : yes but it doesn’t include your parent company
10:25:20 >> From Stefan Risko : @chris – are you looking at sales? Or to get out of a production role? Lot’s of sales opportunity for admissions reps, I’ve hired a lot of great people from admissions over my time.
10:26:41 >> From Roseanne Donohue : cyber security is booming!
10:27:05 >> From Matthew Liptak : career change in recruiting look into contract recruiter roles in those other industries to break into that industry
10:27:54 >> From Roseanne Donohue : my co is doing well amid COVID. our services are needed now more than ever
10:28:59 >> From Stefan Risko : internal and external recruiting, to Steven’s point. You’re a business partner to you clients, or the part of business you’re supporting. Great point Steven.
10:29:43 >> From Maureen Daly : suggestions for breaking into the tech industry
10:29:46 >> From Catherine Hansen : For anyone interested in tech recruiting, I’ve found it more open to hiring recruiters from other industries
10:29:52 >> From Roseanne Donohue : if you are a good recruiter I feel you can learn a new industry
10:30:15 >> From Stefan Risko : most tech roles, or people I know in tech, have started out as recruiters, and grown into sales, and wherever from there.
10:31:10 >> From Susan Jayne to All panelists : agree Roseanne!!
10:31:41 >> From Roseanne Donohue : my VP of HR went from consumer electronics to high tech
10:32:13 >> From Catherine Hansen : Back to the LI open to work thing ….. anyone perceived ageism or stigma from a profile picture? Silicon Valley tech is mostly under 40
10:32:19 >> From Natha Green : Tech recruiting in Chicago still hot, but yes tough to break into if not a core area of focus. I work with our home office business which is where R&D sits so by nature of my customer base I had to learn. Dice.com has a nice list of tech languages and what they are/do available to download. Was my bible for a long time to be able to speak somewhat intelligently.
10:33:07 >> From Chris Helvajian : @Stefan – I’m looking more toward program management/recruiting on a University Relations team – more talent acquisition manager roles… Sales is part of my skillset definitely, but I don’t know I’m cut out for the commission-based pay structure.
10:33:08 >> From Glenn Murani : Rachel – if you had to learn a new business industry, you can use that as an example to transition into technology – demonstrating how you picked up a new industry and were successful. You learn technology by listening to technical candidates explain what they do and the tools they use.
10:33:26 >> From Natha Green : I’ve seen a lot of agency folks not adapt well into Corp recruiting volumes and processes
10:33:59 >> From Matthew Liptak : I disagree. My last 4 corporate recruiter hires were straight agency and are excellent recruiters
10:34:25 >> From Rachel Cupples : Great point, Glenn
10:34:42 >> From Steven Green : Agreed. Especially if corporate environment and recruiting process is highly customized and regulated.
10:34:45 >> From Crystal Mitchell : I’ve been both and I feel it was much easier as a Corporate recruiter than an agency recruiter. I believe it depends on the companies. Some big name companies don’t really need to source because everyone wants to work for them.
10:35:05 >> From Jessica Freemark to All panelists : I am currently in an agency recruiter looking to switch to a corporate role in the future. To switch to corporate I am looking at a major pay cut.
10:35:12 >> From sam Dumash : isn’t that a conflict of interest?
10:35:20 >> From Roseanne Donohue : blend of agency and corporate is a nice mix of experience
10:35:33 >> From Stefan Risko to All panelists : @Sam – depends on your industry and your company policies. Typically it’s not.
10:36:03 >> From Steven Green : I too appreciate that agency recruiters bring a level of sourcing aggressiveness and creativity that can often be lacking in a corporate environment that can become too sheltered.
10:36:06 >> From Matthew Liptak : depends on company..I took a major cut when I switched but it paid off in the long run
10:36:17 >> From Stefan Risko to All panelists : @Chris .. connect with my on linkedin, I think in 2021 we’ll be growing our WC college recruiting.
10:36:18 >> From Maureen Daly : Sean- an tips for starting on the 1099?
10:36:23 >> From Roseanne Donohue : lets see what happened after the election
10:36:27 >> From Stefan Risko to All panelists : https://www.linkedin.com/in/stefan-risko/
10:37:08 >> From Stacey Kramer : Unemployment claims are not an accurate reflection of those out of work since it only reflects those applying. Workforce participation is different.
10:38:55 >> From Carlton Godfrey to All panelists : Work From Home has changed everything. # of applicants have increased as location is no longer an issue.
10:40:11 >> From Carlton Godfrey to All panelists : An Agency recruiter told me that CA based companies are looking for people in lower cost areas to hire.
10:40:21 >> From Catherine Hansen : @Rachel, so to clarify- you removed your city location from your LI profile and now it just says “remote”?
10:42:49 >> From Stefan Risko to All panelists : angelslist.com is another great place for tech-start up opportunities
10:43:34 >> From Matthew Liptak : tech leadership councils, americaninno, builtin, any branding type of tech or industry group
10:43:35 >> From Marie deGroh : When you change your resume to a specific role, do you remove titles? For example I was a project lead for TA and a Communications Lead for a F100 recently, but I’m open to recruiting myself or a management role. Also, any tips for those of us over 50? Age discrimination is very prevalent now more than ever.
10:44:06 >> From Rachel Cupples : I did not remove anything from linked in
10:44:13 >> From radhika aggarwal to All panelists : there are 289 jobs and 1154 recruiters looking
10:44:26 >> From Roseanne Donohue : focus resume on most recent 10-15 years of experience. don’t need to include earlier jobs
10:44:31 >> From Rachel Cupples : I have a resume for when I apply to remote roles that says remote
10:46:15 >> From Catherine Hansen : You are inspirational, Rachel!
10:47:22 >> From Roseanne Donohue : good luck Rachel
10:47:37 >> From Maureen Daly : Thanks Rachel!
10:48:06 >> From Roseanne Donohue : agree stefan
10:48:21 >> From Roseanne Donohue : resume must reflect job requirements
10:49:07 >> From Roseanne Donohue : cover letter should really be tailored to job and company not a generic template
10:49:27 >> From Rachel Cupples : Can we do another poll? How many recruiters are reading cover letters initially?
10:49:45 >> From Stefan Risko to All panelists : https://www.linkedin.com/in/stefan-risko/
10:49:58 >> From Matthew Liptak : https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewliptak/
10:50:17 >> From Roseanne Donohue : I don’t read cover letters mostly but when I do if its not tailored then its a negative
10:50:20 >> From Stefan Risko to All panelists : it blows my mind when recruiters don’t connect with people on LinkedIn… Here to help!
10:50:37 >> From Catherine Hansen : +1 to Roseanne
10:50:51 >> From Rachel Cupples : @recruitingSHEro Rachel Cupples – Find me on any social platform you’re comfortable with.
10:50:53 >> From Matthew Liptak : I do not personally read them but some roles require them
10:51:09 >> From Stefan Risko to All panelists : Also amazes me how many people send in a cover letter that is general, not for the role or company they’re applying for.
10:51:27 >> From Carlton Godfrey to All panelists : I rarely read cover letters.
10:52:03 >> From Karen E to All panelists : Generally speaking it’s the 80/20 rule with cover letters. I read about 20% of them.
10:52:24 >> From Karen E : Generally speaking it’s the 80/20 rule with cover letters. I read about 20% of them.
10:53:42 >> From Catherine Hansen : Great idea, Rachel!
10:53:56 >> From Susan Jayne to All panelists : thank You Rachel !!
10:54:39 >> From Rachel Cupples : Let’s connect!
10:54:51 >> From Steven Rosenblum : Thanks everyone! Let’s connect for sure!
10:54:52 >> From Toni Wells : Thank you!
10:54:53 >> From Anne Patrick : Thank you all for your time today!!
10:54:55 >> From Catherine Hansen : Thank you panelists!
10:54:57 >> From Shawanna Bailey to All panelists : Thank you!!
10:54:57 >> From Crystal Mitchell : Thank you!
10:55:00 >> From Marie deGroh : Thank you!
10:55:02 >> From Steven Green : Thanks to all — helpful!
10:55:03 >> From Maureen Daly : Thank you everyone!!
10:55:05 >> From Elaine DeWitt : THANK YOU!!!
10:55:09 >> From Karen E : I’m happy to connect on LI
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